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Posted: 21 September 2007 11:32 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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I must say, this is one of the more pleasant and well-designed sites I’ve seen in a while.
I wholeheartedly commend those who worked on this thing.

Freaking awesome.

Edit: Ok, except for the smilies. I do not commend the smilies. Or “smileys.”
Edit 2: Also, this thing seems to screw with my spacing.
One carriage return.

Two carriage returns.

Three carriage returns.

Four carriage returns.

Edit 3: Hmm. This is… disheartening.

Anyway, awesome site!

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Posted: 21 September 2007 12:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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You can thank Michael (Chibbs) for his hard work and mad design skills.  The spacing thing is a little weird.  Not critical though… smile

Smilies - do you have any suggestions?  We’re totally open to improving the smilies.

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Posted: 21 September 2007 12:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Thanks Zachol. I really appreciate it. I’ve labored over the design of this thing for a bit over a month now. Their are still a few things that we want to improve. I haven’t even touched the smilies, yet. I am also considering a better WYSIWYG editor, like TinyMCE. I am somewhat concerned with load times and some problems people have had with TinyMCE and Expression Engine forums.

So what do you not like about “Smileys”? (man I should changed what that’s called)

What’s weird about the spacing. Are the paragraphs too far apart or are you having weird issues with the number of carriage returns it takes to dilenate a break tage vs a paragraph?

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Posted: 21 September 2007 12:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Oh and I should note. You just made my day. :D
I may just take it easier on the gang tonight with my Age of Worms game.

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Posted: 21 September 2007 12:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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I agree, I like it a lot and I don’t even know anything.

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Posted: 21 September 2007 12:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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I’ve always disliked smilies that are actually sphere-like or “semi-realistic”.
Also, these smiles have really strange eyes and eye positions relative to the rest of the “head.”
Reducing the size of them and bringing the features more toward the center, so that the eyes aren’t on the very top of the head and the mouth not on the very bottom, along with either thickening or rejiggling the lines would be a lot nicer.

online-roleplaying.com’s smilies comes very close to what I consider “good,” but a lot of them are still a little off.
I will have to meditate on them - now that I think about it, I don’t actually ever remember “liking” any set of smilies, simply having the opinion of either “eh, they’re ok” or “argh my eyes!”
So it’s probably me just being unfortunately (Gibbering Mouther Ate Your Word!) about the appearance of an otherwise well-done thing.

Also, with the spacing, I think I will simply have to rework how I type and space stuff anyway.
I’m used to inserting extra lines in places I think are appropriate.
As far as I can tell, the software simply reformats any break with more than one return as a rot of “double size” break. Thus, there is only one return, or three, but not two (that is, a single line’s worth of breakage) or more than three.

Edit: I apparently posted after someone posted something after I loaded this thread such that there were responses in between that which I was responding to and my response.

Anyway, 2 things -
1. I suppose if anyone can call me “Zachol,” someone like you can, but note that it does make me physically cringe. Seriously.
2. When I think about it, the spacing works well for blog posts and similar things. Paragraphs are clearly separate from each other.
However, I tend to insert a lot of returns in my writing - one for almost every sentence. I don’t really function well with paragraphs, and the number of returns helps me break up thoughts, and, in my opinion, allows insight into how I personally am forming things in my mind. It is simply that what I write, in the style I have become accustomed to from these sorts of boards, ends up looking very much unlike what I intended with the number and style of returns.
Again, it does seem appropriate for a blog post, and likely for any sort of long writing thing, but for the usual short responses it makes them overly large and odd-looking.

Other version:
I tend to put extra lines in.
Carriage returns work fine, but sometimes I need to add an extra one, because my sentences are already broken into individual thoughts, and I wish to group them.

However, adding a second line, and not allowing more than that, makes it difficult to separate groupings of thoughts.

Another way to put it is I like to write in a powerpoint-like bullet style, and instead of using bullets I simply group “subgroups” by varying numbers of spare lines.
Which no longer works.

Anyway, this is totally my own goofy way of doing things.
I am not making a demand, as I have no place to make a demand, but simply commenting on a feature that, although sound, has already been noticed and disliked.

I know a lot of other places that do this, situations where my usual writing ends up having twice the number of lines I intended it to. It’s just always odd.

Edit 2: Or, to put it yet another way, what I type is not what appears on the screen, and this causes me problems, because I’m used to writing in such a way that the appearance of what I’m saying is the same for the reader as how I write and intend it to be.
Not really a WYSIWYG system (although I suppose that it is better than having to include <hr> everywhere).

Edit 3: Also also, they insert a bunch of spaces at the end of the post, before the signature. For some reason this makes me sad.
/shrug
I don’t know.

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Posted: 21 September 2007 12:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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Mike does do fantastic work! I agree whole-heartedly.

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Posted: 21 September 2007 12:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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I’ve always disliked smilies that are actually sphere-like or “semi-realistic”.
Also, these smiles have really strange eyes and eye positions relative to the rest of the “head.”
Reducing the size of them…

Hrm. I think I am ok with the actual smilies. You indeed seem a bit smilascist? Is that even a word? What I really want to do is make the smilies appear in-line rather than in a new window. Stupid new windows. Maybe something that fades in or something. :D

Also, with the spacing, I think I will simply have to rework how I type and space stuff anyway.
I’m used to inserting extra lines in places I think are appropriate.
As far as I can tell, the software simply reformats any break with more than one return as a rot of “double size” break. Thus, there is only one return, or three, but not two (that is, a single line’s worth of breakage) or more than three.

Two return == hard return and start a new paragraph. One return == line break.

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Posted: 21 September 2007 12:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Mmmhmm. I just don’t think well in paragraphs, I guess.

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Posted: 21 September 2007 12:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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I don’t care for the smileys myself, but that’s just me.

What matters is that this site looks damn fine overall. And it’s fast-loading, too. Amazing work--this deserves a matching avatar on my part.

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Posted: 21 September 2007 01:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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I dislike the lack of a good, solid ninja smiley. I mean, what am I supposed to do if I want a ::ph34r:: emoticon?

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Posted: 21 September 2007 01:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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I really cannot comment on the smilies as I think use of them takes away from good post content.

My suggestion.  What are the chances for a “last read” feature which could appear as a link next to a thread that may be several pages deep in discussion?

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